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 Post subject: 680 CF card in PCMCIA adapter?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:54 am 
it doesn't seem to work. not seen. I plan to use the CF card as a way to transfer files from teh PC, as booting with shift and syncing is kind of cumbersome.

I searched the forums and couldn't find any satisfactory answer.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:10 am 
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please explain further what you are trying to do. Are you booting from it? Or just mounting it.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:28 am 
i just need to get documents - text, code, pdfs etc from it.
i have a CF USB adapter and I was using this setup to transfer files between my jornada and the PC, and I'd like to continue to do so under linux as well.
My PC runs XP, though I have a laptop that runs puppy linux as well.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:37 pm 
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If I try to boot from CF in slot2 (CF slot on Jornada 690) while having another CF card (via adapter) in slot1 (PCMCIA), machine halts. If I insert one later, it also halts in OPIE. I have to confirm it (tried only two CF cards), but for now - that's it.

P.S. I also didn't catch, what does the topic starter want.


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He runs Jlime from the CF slot, but wants an additional one (in the form of a PCMCIA-to-CF adapter) so he can move things between the Jornada and his PC without rebooting JLime.

I was thinking of getting a 6-in-1 PCMCIA card reader thingie, for quite the same purposes. And for getting stuff from cameras and cell phones.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:31 pm 
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I'd also like to have this functionality.

Interesting for me, how is he going to move files between twp CF's after reboot. WinCE does not know ext2 fs. May be mounting FAT partition from jLime, copying file there, rebooting to wince, copying file from jLime's CF to another one... Too much troubles for me.

Modern card reader you're talking about would probably be a 32bit PCCard - no luck for us. May be an SD-reader in CF form factor? I doubt one can find old 16bit PCMCIA multi card reader. 32bit PCCards appeared with Pentium1 (or even before?), while non-CF memory cards became popular much later (with Pentium3 IMHO). May be SmartMedia. But it's obsolete.


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http://cgi.ebay.com/6in1-PCMCIA-Adapter-Card-Reader-SM-MS-MS-Pro-SD-MMC-xD_W0QQitemZ150192829903QQihZ005QQcategoryZ38331QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Loads of these available.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:16 am 
nai, that is what I meant.

I know the CF adapter works with the Jornada because I used it under WinCe....

maybe it's just my linux noobishness.


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B_Lizzard,
Too bad there's no CF on that PCMCIA reader. Actually I think there are no PCMCIA (16bit) multi readers for CF at all, because
1)CF is too large to fit anything more on the side of type2 PCMCIA card
2)CF could be (in theory) read with dump passive adapter

There are PCMCIA CF readers which act like ATA controller, but most of them are cardbus.

But in general the problem is solvable, thanks!

luftwaffle,
I'm also new to this platform, but I'm pretty sure that inability to use PCMCIA slot for CF is the limitation of Linux currently. I can confirm, it works under wince.

IMHO the problem is partly due to the order of slots: PCMCIA slot is 1 and CF slot is 2, so if there's only CF slot used (under 2.6.19+ kernel), the CF is 'sda', but if both slots are used, PCMCIA is 'sda' and CF is 'sdb'. If we are sure CF is not removable (due to OS running on it), it could make sense to "promote" CF slot to the higher priority then PCMCIA one if it's programmatically possible. Or use e2label?


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You should be able to just mount the PCMCIA->CF card under Jlime?

should be /dev/sdb.

so for instance to mount first partition on PCMCIA->CF card onto folder /mnt/cf you should do.

'mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/cf'


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:57 am 
command failed. there is on sdb1 in /dev, I double checked


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:22 am 
I resetted the computer with shift key pressed, went into wince and retrieved my file.

but I hope there is an easier way ....


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Try this, with the card installed. Type 'fdisk -l' and it should list all visable devices. Yours might not be sdb1. See whats listed, then run 'mkdir /mnt/pcmcia' , then weed out the obvious (hda1 and hda2) then as mentioned above use 'mount /dev/whatever-is-listed /mnt/pcmcia . Using /mnt/cf wont work as the fat partition is mounted there by default.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:45 pm 
i tried that, it showed dis as hda with three devices, hda1, hda2 and hda3, noe of which is the CF card in the PCMCIA slot.


i hate to ask this, but does the CF card have to be formatted under linux? I thought linux can read fat partitions?!


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:32 pm 
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Yes, Linux can read FAT.

But if the OPIE's automounter refuses to do it's job, you should mount a card 'by hand'.

I'll check this issue and report tomorrow.


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