In this topic problems are iscussed w/ Kingston CF cards and running Jlime on them. It appears that an ext2 partition on a CF card of the brand Kingston cannot be read by the 2.6 kernel provided by the Jlime version currently available. Hence, I cannot use Jlime now.

So I am thinking of buying yet another CF card. But what brand should I choose? What do y'all have?

This question is answerd on the wiki.
http://jlime.com/mw4/index.php/Hardware ... Flash_List

Feel free to add more cards that you know work.

That's remarkable! My Kingston 1 GB card is listed there as working w/ kernel 2.6.17 and up! Yet I can only boot Opie (not GPE or Jlime) w/ a 2.4.31 kernel. If we Kingston users use a 2.6 kernel then not one single version of Jlime will boot w/ the card.....

I wonder what 2.6 kernel is included in the latest Jlime. Version 2.6.13? The way Jlime has to be instaslled now-a-days is very simple (luckily!) by copying the zImage from Jlime's rootfs to the fat16 partition on your CF card. However, this does not say exactly which kernel you are using (I think zImage is the initial ram disk (initrd) and the kernel in one file).

But you said in the other topic that you'll look into it. For which I'm very grateful.I'll be patient.

If its working in one kernel version then it means that we only have to copy that idstring from that kernel to whatever one you want working. Standard for hp6xx is 2.6.17, for hp7xx its 2.6.19
2.4 is a different story from 2.6, it really doesnt check what the compactflash has for idstring so everything will work.

Thank you very much for your fast reply. So w/ a 2.4 kernel it does not matter what brand of CF card you have because it does not check the particulars of the CF card and a 2.6 kernel does??

So that's why when I use my old 64 MB CF card then the 2.6 Jlime kernel does boot (but stops because of lack of disk space), but if I copy the same files to the Kingston 1 GB card then the boot process stops almost immediately saying that it cannot mount the root file system.

[edited because I appeared not to have read Kristoffers post good enough]

yes and yes.

Any hope on a fix for us Kingston users?

yes, will fix it today. Will focus mainly on the 2.6.19 kernel since hp7xx users depend on that. and maybe some other version.

Cont. from this topic. Basically same prob.

Dear Hal,

Glad to see that there are still people starting to use Jlime and that there are still people that use the ol' Jornada. I read that you tried to use a Sandisk CF card 30 mbps (is that a so called Ultra II?). The old Sandisk 15 mbps (of which I think most of them work) almost aren't sold anymore. Further more, CF cards are all together 'out of fashion' as most modern devices use microSD or other cards. Unfortunately. To make matters worse, the type Ultra III CF's (60 mbps?) are becoming more and more standard for photo camera's today. I was lucky enough to find myself a 15 mbps Sandisk card a few days ago. Threw my Kingston in the bin.

From what I understand from Kristoffer (the 2.6 kernel developer) 2.4 kernels do not check CF card id's but 2.6 kernels do. That's why most people can work w/ 2.4 but when they switch to 2.6 they can't anymore.

The way I see it w/ the Jornada is that it is a very, very old legacy device. As are the peripherals that are compatible with it. It is in no way officially supported anymore, and the 'unofficial community support' by Jlime and so on is slowly decreasing. I do not expect to see any updates on hardware support nor an update of the OS itself (notice that Jlime Mongo becomes very unstable after an 'ipkg upgrade': it does need an update to become more stable). At some point in time community support for anything (soft- or hardware) stops. Usually, years later somebody else picks it up again, but that's another story.

I feel that the current Jlime developers (who are community 'volunteers') are slowly "moving on"... This leaves us Jornada users w/ a device that is very beautiful, very useful and hasn't got a real alternative today. So I'm afraid that we must accept that anything Jornada is like buying a vintage car or rather like using a vintage computer like the Commodore 64. One must almost completely rely on second hand parts and classic software: nothing that can be bought in a store will work... Just like w/ a classic car. Alas.

Which brings me to the conclusion I've already drawn for myself: it is useless to wait for new developments in support (hard- and software alike). If you've got something 'lying the attic' that works w/ the Jornada: consider yourself the luckiest man alive. If you don't: pull out your wallet and a whole lotta, whole lotta patience and persistence. Browse the second hand markets (eBay and the likes) buy something (don't spend to much hope or money on it) and put in the Jornada. If it don't work: throw it in the bin and buy another brand.

I'm considering to write a large topic about my Jornada experiences (hard- and software) when I've gotten Gnumeric (spreadsheet) stable and when I've got a working network card & netw. setup (already threw two in the bin as you can read in some topics in this forum ).

I don't count on anybody anymore, but if there ever will be some new developments I'll be the first to try it and I'll be very thankful for any developments! Alas, I do not know how to program or how to fix drivers and/or software so although I'd like to help I'm pretty much useless to the project. To everybody involved w/ the project, today and in the past:

A big thank you!

Thanks for your comprehensive reply. I will try the 2.4... version(s) of Userland and I found a used 2gb Sandisk CF on ebay, so I will try the best of both worlds. In my experimenting I found I partitioned the Linix side as Ext3, so changed that and now get the classic errors: ...append a correct "root=" and Kernel Panic... so now I am "normal".

Double thanks,

Hal

hmm, we could perhaps use the 2.4 kernel to drag the id strings out of the card. Havent considerd that.

@Meneer:
I contacted Jan/Yan Prochazka about the flashrom card, and he posted in the thread about it. The Jornada Community isn't dead yet and i hope it'll start swinging again. It's a good device, small and perfectly designed to be still usable for everyday tasks. No netbook can compete with the size and no smartphone is nearly as usable.

Hal reported in this topic that a 2 GB type II Sandisc CF card is working w/ Jlime.

Anyone with a non-working CF card, please run this howto http://jlime.com/mw4/index.php/Howto_fi ... ings#howto

Hello everyone,

I've update the compatibility list with sandisk ultra 4gb card and xircom ethernet 10/100mbits that work like a charm in my 720.

But I have a question about the support of the new sandisk cf card name ultra II and ultra III.

anyone have test these cards cause It's more and more difficult to find sandisk ultra 1.


I also want to know if anybody try an SD->CF type 1 adapter, could be a good alternative if it work.